Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/03/1997 01:00 PM House TRA

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            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                            
                        February 3, 1997                                       
                           1:10 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Representative Beverly Masek, Vice Chairman                                   
 Representative John Cowdery                                                   
 Representative Jerry Sanders                                                  
 Representative Kim Elton                                                      
 Representative Al Kookesh                                                     
                                                                               
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                
                                                                               
 Representative Bill Williams, Chairman                                        
 Representative Bill Hudson                                                    
                                                                               
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                            
                                                                               
 EXECUTIVE ORDER 98                                                            
 "Transfers commercial highway functions from the Department of                
 Commerce and Economic Development and the Department of Public                
 Safety to the Department of Transportation."                                  
                                                                               
      - HEARD AND HELD                                                         
                                                                               
 *HOUSE BILL NO. 83                                                            
 "An Act relating to commercial motor vehicle inspections; and                 
 providing for an effective date."                                             
                                                                               
      - HEARD AND HELD                                                         
                                                                               
 (* First Public Hearing)                                                      
                                                                               
 PREVIOUS ACTION                                                               
                                                                               
 BILL:  HB  83                                                               
 SHORT TITLE: COMMERCIAL VEHICLE INSPECTIONS                                   
 SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) MARTIN                                          
                                                                               
 JRN-DATE      JRN-PG             ACTION                                       
 01/22/97       122    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRAL(S)                 
 01/22/97       122    (H)   TRANSPORTATION, STATE AFFAIRS                     
 02/03/97              (H)   TRA AT  1:00 PM CAPITOL 17                        
                                                                               
 WITNESS REGISTER                                                              
                                                                               
 BOYD BROWNFIELD, Deputy Commissioner                                          
 Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                            
 3132 Channel Drive                                                            
 Juneau, AK   99801                                                            
 Telephone:  (907) 465-6973                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions of EO 98                               
                                                                               
 DEL SMITH, Deputy Commissioner                                                
 Department of Public Safety                                                   
 P.O. Box 111200                                                               
 Juneau, Alaska   99811                                                        
 Telephone:  (907) 465-4322                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT: Present to answer questions on EO 98                      
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TERRY MARTIN                                                   
 Alaska State Legislature                                                      
 Capitol Building, Room 502                                                    
 Juneau, Alaska   99801                                                        
 Telephone:  (907) 465-3783                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on HB 83                                        
                                                                               
 FRANK DILLON, Executive Director                                              
 Alaska Trucking Association                                                   
 3433 Minnesota Drive                                                          
 Anchorage, Alaska   99505                                                     
 Telephone:  (907) 276-1149                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on HB 83                                        
                                                                               
 STUART HALL, Ombudsman                                                        
 Legislative Agencies and Offices                                              
 P.O. Box 113000                                                               
 Juneau, Alaska   99811                                                        
 Telephone:  (907) 465-4970                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on HB 83                                        
                                                                               
 BRAD BROWN, Sergeant                                                          
 Alaska State Trooper Vehicle Enforcement                                      
 117 West 4th Avenue                                                           
 Anchorage, Alaska   99515                                                     
 Telephone:  (907) 278-0312                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on HB 83                                        
                                                                               
 ACTION NARRATIVE                                                              
                                                                               
 TAPE 97-2, SIDE A                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 001                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIR BEVERLY MASEK called the House Transportation Standing                  
 Committee to order at 1:10 p.m.  Members present at the call to               
 order were Representatives Sanders, Elton, Masek, Cowdery and                 
 Kookesh.  Members absent were Representatives Williams and Hudson.            
 Chair Masek stated that Representative Williams was excused due to            
 a personal matter.                                                            
                                                                               
 EO 98 - Transferring certain functions from DCEC and DPS to DOT&PF          
                                                                               
 Number 087                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIR MASEK stated that EO 98, deals with "Transfering commercial             
 highway functions from the Department of Commerce and Economic                
 Development and the Department of Public Safety to the Department             
 of Transportation."  The committee meeting on EO 98, was for                  
 discussion purposes and no action would be taken today.                       
                                                                               
 Number 177                                                                    
                                                                               
 BOYD BROWNFIELD, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Transportation            
 and Public Facilities, stated that EO 98 pertains to the                      
 adjudication of oversized and overweight vehicles on Alaska's                 
 highways.  Currently there are three separate departments that have           
 significant responsibilities that pertain to the one issue.  Mr.              
 Brownfield stated that most of the regulations and issues dealing             
 with oversize and overweight vehicles preside in the Department of            
 Transportation and Public Facilities, (DOT&PF).  The DOT&PF has the           
 responsibility for the maintenance, operation, condition and safety           
 of Alaska's highways.  The Department of Commerce and Economic                
 Development (DCEC), through their Weights and Measures Division,              
 issues permits for oversize and overweight vehicles, however, in              
 most cases the Weights and Measures Division has to call the DOT&PF           
 to obtain permission for permit issuance.  The DCEC operates                  
 Alaska's ten fixed weigh stations.  The weigh stations are located            
 from Anchorage to Fairbanks, from the talkeetna entrance to Alaska            
 from Canada and in Valdez; there are no weigh stations in Southeast           
 Alaska.  The Department of Public Safety, (DPS) through their                 
 Commercial Vehicle Program, issues the safety and enforcement                 
 measures.  The DPS provides a mobile inspection force to areas                
 without fixed weigh stations to ensure the remote areas of Alaska             
 are being policed in regards to oversized and overweight trucks and           
 vehicles.  The DPS has the overall law enforcement authority to               
 carry out the program of oversize and overweight vehicles.  The               
 DOT&PF, DCEC, DPS are the three departments that interact on a                
 daily basis over the issue of weights and measures.  The three                
 commissioners of the respective departments, the Alaska Truckers              
 Association and the teamsters support the consolidation to the                
 DOT&PF.  Mr. Brownfield stated that the DOT&PF has not found anyone           
 in disagreement to the consolidation.  He further stated that                 
 presently, the Commercial Trucking Program is barely satisfactory             
 in the eyes of the federal government.  The Commercial Trucking               
 Program is funded by Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency             
 Act (ISTEA) money, if the program does fall below the satisfactory            
 level it will result in 10 percent of ISTEA funding sanctions.  The           
 DOT&PF receives the majority of the ISTEA funds, as a result, Mr.             
 Brownfield believes the DOT&PF has a special interest to make sure            
 the program is kept in good condition.  Mr. Brownfield stated that            
 combining resources in one Department would result in a one stop              
 shopping process and an increased efficiency that would be a                  
 benefit the to the public as well as the state.                               
                                                                               
 Number 599                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOHN COWDERY asked who administered the portable               
 scales.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 630                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD responded the Commercial Trucking Unit in the DPS.             
                                                                               
 Number 673                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if the portable scales are also used             
 in Southeast Alaska and if so, is it through the DPS.                         
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD responded, "Yes, that is correct."                             
                                                                               
 Number 684                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if only the section, of the Weights              
 and Measures Division, that weighs vehicles will be transferred.              
                                                                               
 Number 719                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD replied it would be the whole division including the           
 sections that monitor the gas stations, the scales in the                     
 supermarkets and airports.  He further stated these sections make             
 up an extremely small part of the entire division.                            
                                                                               
 Number 772                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY further asked if only the section that                 
 weighs the vehicles will be transferred to the DOT&PF.                        
                                                                               
 Number 779                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD replied it is the entire department that is going to           
 be transferred to the DOT&PF.                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 802                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY inquired if any offices are going to be                
 physically moved.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 809                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD replied that they do not anticipate any office                 
 relocation because of EO 98.  However, in the future it is the                
 DOT&PF's intent to take the Commercial Trucking Office and the                
 Weights and Measures Office and incorporate them in the same                  
 building.  Mr. Brownfield stated, the fiscal note for EO 98 is zero           
 and would not include the cost of moving the offices together.                
                                                                               
 Number 845                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if there would be any moving costs as            
 a result of EO 98.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 853                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD replied, "No."                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 857                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if EO 98 would result in any                     
 supervisory or personnel reductions.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 866                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD replied, "At the present time there would not be.              
 The only area that we can see that we may make some improvements is           
 if we have to pull somebody off of our Maintenance and Operation              
 Division in order to coordinate the efforts of the permit."                   
                                                                               
 Number 893                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if his understanding was correct that            
 50 to 60 personnel were going to be moved in the transfer.                    
                                                                               
 Number 899                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD stated that it was a transfer of 50 to 60 personnel.           
                                                                               
 Number 905                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked "wouldn't that be cutting supervisory            
 positions for the employees coming out of say commerce if they're             
 having a reduction -- it would seem logical to cut some positions             
 out of that on supervisory positions.  If we don't then we'd                  
 actually have a fiscal note."                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 935                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD replied that the function of the Weights and                   
 Measures Divvison is not going to be reduced in any way, upon the             
 combining of the departments.                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 978                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY stated that the combination of departments             
 would involve a transfer of budgets resulting in the reduction of             
 personnel.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 988                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD replied that EO 98 is a transfer of elements from              
 the DCEC and the DPS to the DOT&PF.  The employees will be                    
 transferred between the departments, however, not resulting in a              
 reduction or addition of employees on the bottom line.  The DPS               
 will transfer its employees except for the two troopers and the               
 Department of Commerce will transfer the entire Weights and                   
 Measures division to the DOT&PF.                                              
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked who will be the troopers direct                  
 supervisor.                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD replied that the troopers will remain in the DPS,              
 although to carry out their particular function they are assigned             
 to the DOT&PF.  This is the same for the troopers in the Department           
 of Fish and Game who report to the DPS for enforcement.                       
                                                                               
 Number 1081                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if there would be any violations of              
 the collective bargaining agreements with EO 98.                              
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD responded that to his knowledge there would not be             
 any violations.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 1106                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if the troopers would require any new            
 trucks, vehicles or equipment in the DOT&PF.                                  
                                                                               
 Number 1110                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD answered no.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 1115                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked where the one stop shopping would be             
 located.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 1121                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD responded that the one stop shopping would be                  
 located in the DOT&PF instead as it is currently located in the               
 three separate departments.  The location would probably be in                
 Huffman Park where the Division Chief will be located.                        
                                                                               
 Number 1133                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY indicated to the Chair that he had talked              
 with some members of the Alaska Trucking Association (ATA) who all            
 conveyed support of centrally located one stop shopping for                   
 permits.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 1177                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR MASEK referred to the memorandum of understanding packet,               
 (MOU), page 2, and stated it answers most of Representative                   
 Cowdery's questions.  She added that the DOT&PF has a solid plan on           
 the incorporation of the 52 positions from the DCEC to the DOT&PF.            
                                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 1220                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD indicated that was correct because all departments             
 involved want a smooth and efficient transition.                              
                                                                               
 Number 1254                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JERRY SANDERS stated that the Weight and Measures              
 Division was incorporated into the DCEC in 1982 and asked what has            
 changed to cause EO 98 to be needed now.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 1282                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD stated that he did not know the history behind the             
 Weights and Measures Division, but the Weights and Measures                   
 Division would be far more efficient under one department compared            
 to how it is operating currently.  The DOT&PF has agreed on EO 98             
 because of the high degree of responsibility the DOT&PF already               
 holds in this matter.  Mr. Brownfield further stated that the                 
 transfer has been attempted before but due to poor coordination it            
 has never been completed.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 1352                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS asked if Mr. Brownfield was positive                   
 that EO 98 was not going to save the state money.                             
                                                                               
 Number 1368                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. BROWNFIELD stated that at this time there are no savings to be            
 found.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 1387                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS stated that EO 98 would result in savings to           
 the truckers and he hopes at some point there will be a savings to            
 the state.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 1396                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY stated to Representative Sanders that he was           
 aware of the history of the Weight and Measures Division as he was            
 present during the thirteenth legislature.  He stated "the reason             
 it was changed -- there was citations being given by commerce                 
 personnel that was challenged and the violations -- courts had some           
 problems with the violations being issued and at that time we put             
 them at the authority -- the issuance of the citations under the              
 Department of Public Safety.  We did a transfer of things to try              
 and accommodate that weakness in our statutes at that time."                  
                                                                               
 Number 1480                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE AL KOOKESH stated that it is really helpful to read            
 the material provided regarding EO 98 as it would eliminate the               
 number of questions being asked.  He pointed out that he believes             
 in one stop shopping for permits and that he would also like to see           
 this occur with permits for logging.  Representative Kookesh stated           
 he was glad there is industry support for EO 98 and a monetary                
 savings for the industry and the public would be a result of EO 98.           
                                                                               
 Number 1530                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KIM ELTON indicated, "If EO 98 was to go into effect           
 than HB 83 would need to be re-written so that it reflects that               
 this function is being taken from Chapter 28 and moving it to                 
 Chapter 29."                                                                  
                                                                               
 CHAIR MASEK stated she would make a note of Representative Elton's            
 point and that the committee would not be taking any action on HB
 83 today.  Chair Masek asked if there was anyone else who would               
 like to testify.                                                              
                                                                               
 DEL SMITH, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Public Safety,                  
 indicated he was present to answer any questions that the committee           
 might have.                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR MASEK stated hearing no further comments, the committee will            
 address HB 83.                                                                
 HB 83 -  COMMERCIAL VEHICLE INSPECTIONS                                     
                                                                               
 Number 1627                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR MASEK announced a public hearing on HB 83, "An Act relating             
 to commercial motor vehicle inspections; and providing for an                 
 effective date."                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 1633                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TERRY MARTIN stated that HB 83 was written as a                
 result of  Mr. Stuart Hall's, Ombudsman, Legislative Agencies and             
 Offices, annual reports, which proved that the commercial vehicle             
 truck inspection laws require upgrading.  Representative Martin               
 believes there is a major problem if the state is not doing the               
 inspections that are called for by the statutes, and felt this                
 could result in a higher level of liability.  He referred to the              
 suggestion that the federal laws on commercial vehicle inspections            
 would adequatly serve the purpose of public safety and stated that            
 the committee may want to follow the federal law.                             
                                                                               
 Number 1778                                                                   
                                                                               
 FRANK DILLON, Executive Director, Alaska Trucking Association,                
 testified via teleconference from Anchorage.  He stated that the              
 ATA is a 38-year old trade association that represents the                    
 interests of the commercial vehicle users throughout Alaska.  The             
 ATA has 300 member companies and represents a substantial portion             
 of commercial truck operators in Alaska.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 1788                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DILLON stated that in 1986, as the Alaska Transportation                  
 Commission was being phased out, the legislature in order to                  
 protect the interest of public highway users passed HB 83, Title              
 28, Chapter 32, regarding commercial vehicle inspections and                  
 setting up a system where inspections would occur twice a year.               
 This was passed 1986 but was never implemented.  In 1990, Mr.                 
 Dillon worked for the ATA and realized that there was a lot of                
 equipment that could only be identified by viewing the license                
 plates which in most cases were obscured.  He stated that in other            
 jurisdictions the vehicle identification is required to be marked             
 on the vehicles doors and was surprised that there is no                      
 requirement to do so in Alaska.                                               
                                                                               
 Number 1835                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DILLON stated the that the Motor Carriers Safety Assistance               
 Program (MCSAP) sets up federal money to be available to the state            
 as a supplement to their Commercial Vehicle Program.  The current             
 program mirrors the regulations of the MCSAP.  Mr. Dillon stated              
 that, all trucks in the state of Alaska, operating under interstate           
 commerce, have always been under the federal Motor Carriers Safety            
 Regulations (MCSR).  Interstate commerce is defined by the where              
 the freight is going, not where the trucks are traveling to and               
 from.  Mr. Dillon stated that in 1993 the DPS administratively                
 adopted the MCSR which have been enforced since that time.  The ATA           
 has educated the commercial drivers of the regulations and                    
 requirements under the MCSR.  The ATA has also enacted a drug                 
 testing and alcohol testing law which is both a random and pre-               
 employment test for commercial vehicle users.                                 
                                                                               
 Number 1980                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DILLON stated that the MCSR requires several different                    
 inspections take place to ensure the equipment on Alaskan highways            
 is safe.  The annual defect free requirement is an inspection                 
 performed by a mechanic on every piece of commercial truck                    
 equipment used in Alaska.  A daily requirement for mid-size                   
 equipment, 10,000 pounds and over, mandates at shift end, the                 
 driver must report the condition of his/her equipment, repairs have           
 to be performed, if needed, before the equipment can be used again.           
 In addition, there is a random inspection done by the Commercial              
 Vehicle Unit on the highway and at the trucking facilities.  The              
 federal MCSR is contained in a 535 page booklet that truck drivers            
 are required to be familiar with as well as implement.  Mr. Dillon            
 stated that the MCSR ensures both safe equipment and qualified                
 drivers are operating on Alaska's highways.  Mr. Dillon added that            
 the MCSR meets the federal requirements in order to receive the               
 federal highway funds, of which DOT&PF receives over 200 million.             
                                                                               
 Number 2079                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DILLON asked that a committee substitute be introduced that               
 addresses the federal regulations that have administratively been             
 adopted.  He stated that he would like to see Alaska's inspection             
 program comply with the federal regulation rather that a program              
 that has never been instituted, will cost the industry between four           
 and six million dollars to private garage owners and will not                 
 enhance safety on Alaska's highways.  He stated he would like to              
 see the federal guidelines be established in the statutes or be               
 recognized administratively.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 2162                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON asked Mr. Dillon who would carry out the                 
 inspections to insure compliance with the federal guidelines under            
 this proposal that Mr. Dillon would like to see incorporated into             
 a committee substitute.  He further asked if Mr. Dillon stated this           
 would save the industry four to six million dollars by shifting               
 inspections from having to be performed by private garages.                   
                                                                               
 Number 2193                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DILLON replied that right now there is not a mandate that                 
 commercial vehicles be taken to a commercial inspection station.              
 Many of the commercial vehicle operators do take their equipment to           
 vendors because they recognize the need for inspection and the                
 assurance that they are not missing any safety related items.  Many           
 companies and owner operators are qualified to perform the safety             
 inspections themselves.  The ATA would incur the four to six                  
 million dollar cost under the proposed inspection system and in               
 addition, the system would not add to the net safety of the                   
 equipment and drivers on the road.  Mr. Dillon stated that under              
 the federal inspection standards Alaska is the safest state both by           
 milage and by tonnage to run equipment in.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 2258                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON asked Mr. Dillon if the federal guidelines are           
 implemented through a committee substitute what would the                     
 enforcement method be; would the industry enforce itself.                     
                                                                               
 Number 2272                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. DILLON replied that the Commercial Vehicle Unit consists of a             
 sergeant, a trooper and four inspectors.  Their job is to provide             
 an oversight and to make sure the inspections are being performed             
 correctly.  He stated that it is not the same person performing all           
 the inspections.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 2305                                                                   
                                                                               
 STUART HALL, Ombudsman, Legislative Agencies and Offices, stated              
 that the state report concerning the operation of the Commercial              
 Vehicle Inspection Unit arose out of a complaint from an Anchorage            
 commercial vehicle owner, who suggested that the commercial vehicle           
 enforcement was causing the operators and the unit to be in non-              
 compliance with the semi-annual inspections required by the                   
 existing statute.  Mr. Hall stated he found this to be true after             
 his investigation.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 2342                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. HALL stated that on a semi-annual basis 60,000 vehicles need to           
 be inspected; the Commercial Vehicle Inspection Units was only able           
 to inspect 1 percent of the 60,000 vehicles.  A program change from           
 semi-annual to annual inspections would still cause the statute to            
 be in compliance with the federal law not effecting the eligibility           
 for a federal grant.  Mr. Hall further stated that if the program             
 inspection failed to comply with the federal regulations the                  
 inspection funds would be the only funds in jeopardy not the entire           
 DOT&PF ISTEA fund.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 2407                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON asked if it was correct that on an annual                
 basis 2 percent of the 60,000 vehicles were being inspected.                  
                                                                               
 MR. HALL stated that to be about right and that Mr. Brownfield                
 indicated that he has a total five inspectors but he would need               
 five in Anchorage, two in Kenai, two in Southeast and two in                  
 Fairbanks in order to be able to comply with the existing law.                
                                                                               
 Number 2442                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON asked if the investigative staff examined what           
 the appropriate level of inspection should be.                                
                                                                               
 MR. Hall replied no they did not.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 2454                                                                   
 BRAD BROWN, sergeant, Alaska State Trooper Vehicle Inspection,                
 testified via teleconference from Anchorage, stated that the                  
 troopers are trying to do the job correctly and be in compliance              
 with the MCSR to insure that the annual inspections are being                 
 performed.  He stated that it is not possible to inspect every                
 truck in the state.  Mr. Brown addressed the issue of loss of                 
 federal money, and stated that if the ATA does not comply then the            
 ATA would be sanctioned resulting in a cut back of the enforcement            
 personnel.                                                                    
                                                                               
 TAPE 97-2, SIDE B                                                             
 Number 010                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ELTON stated that it seems the law is being amended            
 to fit the amount of state resources available for inspection                 
 without answering the question of how much inspection is necessary.           
 He stated he is not sure the decision should be just based on                 
 resources verses being based on what is necessary.                            
                                                                               
 Number 052                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIR MASEK stated that safety and inspection matters are very                
 important and the committee, while working on a committee                     
 substitute will address all concerns involved to work towards the             
 common goal of safety.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 071                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIR MASEK stated hearing no further comments, the committee will            
 take this matter up in a future meeting to work on a committee                
 substitute for HB 83.                                                         
 ADJOURNMENT                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR MASEK adjourned the House Transportation Committee at 2:02              
 p.m.                                                                          
                                                                               

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